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CHURCH RECORDS

CIVIL AND PRIVATE ARCHIVES

LATTER DAY SAINTS

OBERBAYERN LINKS





Oberbayern, or "Upper Bavaria" in English, is one of the 7 Bavarian regions and it lies in the beautiful southern mountainous area of the State.

A native of Oberbayern enjoys the status of "Altbayern" or "Old Bavarian", one of the three original Bavarian tribes.

München, or "Munich" in English, is a principle city of not only Bavaria, but Germany itself and it is located within Oberbayern. München is a favorite destination for many tourists from abroad, especially during the month of September when the annual Oktoberfest and all its accompanying festivities are held.

NOTE: The resources listed below may be in either the German or English language. If you do not know German, you can use an online webpage translator such as http://babelfish.altavista.com/, to give you a basic understanding of the German text on a webpage.




Oberbayernkarte





Der Bezirk Oberbayern - The official website for the District of Upper Bavaria.


Landkreisnetz - Use this website to locate various COUNTY websites in Oberbayern, as well as any TOWN websites for Oberbayern that might be available on the web. The town websites especially can be very useful in locating historical information about the exact place your ancestor was from, to make contact with local residents in the area via guestbook entry or contact city administration personnel at the city hall (Rathaus = city hall, Gemeindeverwaltung = municipality or town administration, Stadtverwaltung = city administration). Some lucky researchers find that city hall personnel may go out of their way to put them in contact with distant relatives who still live in the area or search for entries in a Heimatbuch (local history book) or Chronik (chronicle) that mentions the names of their ancestors.



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CHURCH RECORDS


The Bavarian Genealogy Helper - for Oberbayern - Use this website to find out what parish church your ancestors attended and thereby find out which religious archive to make requests to for Baptism, Marriage and Death records. The website will also tell you what types, and for what years, records for your location should exist.

The diocese of MUNICH - FREISING (MÜNCHEN - FREISING) is responsible for most of the area of Oberbayern:


Archiv des Erzbistums München und Freising
Karmeliterstrasse 1
80333 München
Germany

Website: http://webspace.st-michaelsbund.de/dioezesanarchiv/
E-mail: archiv@ordinariat-muenchen.de


LUTHERAN records for ALL of Oberbayern can be requested here:

Landeskirchliches Archiv, Kirchenbucharchiv
Am Ölberg 2
93047 Regensburg
Germany
Tel. and Fax: +49 941 / 52061

Website: http://www.lkan-elkb.de/kirchenbuecher.htm

NOTE: As of January, 2003. For the Lutheran archive to answer genealogical inquiries they need (as exact as possible) information about name, place of birth or residence and the approximate year of birth, marriage or death of the persons concerned. In general, they only have parish registers ("Kirchenbuecher") until ca. 1876 for persons belonging to the Lutheran church once having lived within the borders of modern Bavaria. Their main office in Nuernberg only keeps records of Nuernberg and its suburbs. Inquiries concerning other places should be sent to the address above. The registers of many parishes however are still kept at the local pastorate. A list of those parishes whose church books are kept in their branch office is available on their website. They may give you, free of charge, information about existing registers and the place where they are kept. They are not allowed to sell or to lend out microfilms or fiches of the originals.

Costs: For genealogical investigations, regardless of their success, they charge Euro 25 or Euro 30 (depending on the degree of difficulty) per half an hour of research (maximum charge: Euro 90), plus postage and other fees. You should confirm this at the time of your request. Extra services such as issuing documents or making copies or photos are to be paid in addition according to their statement of charges. Customers from abroad are requested to send a cheque in advance (currency: Euro). Any information liable to charge may only be delivered by postal letter. Therefore they ask you to give them your postal address when you make your request or inquiry.


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CIVIL AND PRIVATE ARCHIVES


Civil archives and private archives are terrific sources of record documents for the family researcher once he/she has obtained the most genealogically important (baptism, marriage and death) church records for his/her ancestor.


Types of records found in civil and private archives:

Address Books (Adressbücher)
Apprentice Lists (lehrlingsbücher)
Census Returns (Volkszählungen)
City Chronicles (Stadtchroniken)
City Directories (Adressbücher)
Citizenship Lists (Bürgerbücher)
Court Records (Gerichtsprotokolle)
Emigration Lists (Auswanderung register)
Family Books (Ortssippenbücher)
Family Registers (Familienregister)
Funeral Sermons (Leichenpredigten)
Grave Registers (Grabregister)
Guild Books (Gilderbücher)
Land Records (Grundbücher)
Lineage Books (Geschlechterbücher)
Newspapers (Zeitungen)
Parish Registers (Kirchenbücher)
Police Registers (Polizeiregister)
Probate Records (Testamente)
Tax Records (Steuerbücher)
Wills (Testamente)


The Staatsarchiv houses documents that originated anywhere within Oberbayern that needed district or national level approval. Important documents, (including emigration requests, among others) originated at the local level but eventually passed upward to the district level for approval. Therefore, while the lower level archives may contain the petitioner's request, which was passed upward, the Staatsarchiv records also include supporting documents and additional comments and requests that resulted during the processing.


Staatsarchiv München - This website gives information on the specific holdings of this archive which serves all of Oberbayern.

Staatsarchiv München
Schönfeldstr. 3
80539 München
Germany

For mail:
Staatsarchiv München
Postfach 221152
80501 München
Germany

Tel. 089/28638-2525
Fax 089/28638-2526
E-Mail: poststelle@stam.bayern.de


Additionally, to look for municipal-type archives in Oberbayern, visit this webpage:

http://bavariafaqs.homestead.com/MunicipalArchivesList.html
Scroll down the page and look for the words: "Regierungsbezirk Oberbayern".


The Standesumter (civil registration offices) only began taking vital records (birth, death, marriage) after 1 Jan 1876. The Munich Standesamt is on-line and records may now be ordered through a web site, but this only applies to those whose ancestors were from the area of Munich itself, and the records are only accessible to direct descendants:
http://www.muenchen.de/Rathaus/referate/kvr/standesamt/37639/

You can also contact the Munich Standesamt at the following address:

Landeshauptstadt Munchen
Kreisverwaltungsreferat
Standesamt
Ruppertstr. 11
München
Germany

Tel.: 089/233-44344
Fax: 089/233-44320

For people with ancestors from other areas of Oberbayern who may have records after 1 Jan. 1876, contact the appropriate Standesamt (usually located at the same place as the city hall) for wherever they lived. Again, records after 1 Jan. 1876 may only be given to direct descendants. For example, you would be able to obtain records for your parents or grandparents but not for aunts, uncles or cousins or great aunts or uncles, etc.


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LATTER DAY SAINTS


People who live IN Bavaria today are not allowed to access the LDS filmed records while in Bavaria. This is due to a data protection law. Such people need then to personally conduct research for the same documents at a Staatsarchiv or religious archive in Bavaria, as applicable. However, the data protection law in regard to the LDS films does not apply to people who live outside of Bavaria. For example, people who are in the United States ARE allowed access to records filmed by the LDS as well as being allowed to visit and research on their own or pay someone to conduct research on their behalf at any of the Bavarian Staatsarchives.

You can see what the Latter Day Saints (LDS) in Salt Lake City have in the way of information for Oberbayern as a whole (you can also do this for individual town names to search for any church records or other things that might have been filmed by the LDS which would apply to your ancestor) by following these directions:

Do a Place Search in the Family History Library Catalog.

Click on "Place Search"
In the "Place" box enter: Oberbayern
Leave the "Part of" box empty.
Click the "Search" button.
Click on the resulting hyperlink for "Germany, Bayern, Oberbayern".
Browse the subjects for Oberbayern (or the name of the town you entered instead of using "Oberbayern"-- if the town name exists in the Catalog).

Also see the page of this Bavaria Gen Website ( use the drop-down menu at the top of this page or paste the following URL into your browser: http://www.bavariagen.com/lds.html ) which deals with the LDS to find out how to use other resources they provide to further your genealogy research.

NOTE: You may be able to locate civil marriage supplements filmed at the Staatsarchiv München by the LDS if you know the correct location of the Landgerichte ältere Ordnung (Landgerichte ä.O. - court of the old order) and / or the Bezirksamt (district office) location which would have applied to your ancestor at the time he / she married. For example, the Landgerichte ältere Ordnung for those who resided in the town of Postmünster in Niederbayern in the 1860's was located in Pfarrkirchen. By looking in the FHL Catalog for "Pfarrkirchen", a marriage supplement can be found for a groom who resided in Postmünster.

Sometimes the marriage supplements were filed in the FHL Catalog under the headings of "public records", "civil registration", and even "Church records". The LDS have been going through and examining this problem of inconsistency in the filing and will soon be altering all of those records to be found under "public records" in the FHL Catalog.

One way to locate the correct Landgerichte ältere Ordnung is to look it up here:

"Historischer Atlas des Königreiches Bayern"
http://www.kbl.badw.de/publ/hab.htm

In SOME cases, Bayern entsteht
http://www.bayern.de/HDBG/gemeind/
lists the Landgerichte ä.O. Gemeinden belonged to.

If you do not have many place inquiries, you might ask the Staatsarchiv München (listed above in the "CIVIL AND PRIVATE ARCHIVES" section of this page). Afterall, this is where all of the actual documents are really kept.

Prior to 1862 there were 214 "Landgerichte", each of which maintained a file of marriage licenses and supporting documents. After 1862 the responsibility for the licenses was given to the newly created 142 "Bezirksämter". Except in the name of the office of the governing authority, many villages and towns did not experience a location change for the filing of their records. So, you might also try looking up what would have been the correct Bezirksamt location for your ancestor's town at the beginning of the 20th century and use that place name in a "Place Search" in the FHL Catalog. You can find out what the applicable Bezirksamt would have been by looking in:

"Meyers Orts- und Verkehrslexikon des Deutschen Reiches"

by E. Uetrecht. Available on fiche #6,000,000 at all US LDS Family History Centers. This volume, prepared in 1910 and published in 1912, tells about all existing villages, towns, and cities that time); what parish they belonged to, or if they had their own churches; to which various district designations (church, state, military, etc.) they belonged; whether they had train, telegraph, postal services, or how far away they were; presence of market facilities for crops, cattle, etc., population, and a variety of other information. Newer printed volumes are available as reference material at larger public libraries. Also see: How to Use the Meyers Gazetteer.

Points to remember:


1. Most of the marriage supplement records at the FHL and the Staatsarchiv have been cataloged under the Bezirksamt location name. In a handful of cases the records have been cataloged under the Landgericht.

2. The records are sometimes arranged in a confusing order--this occurs when a Bezirksamt inherited records from several Landgerichte and did not ever get them all interfiled with one another. In most cases they did get them interfiled.


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OBERBAYERN LINKS


Ingeborg Brigitte Gastel's Pictures of Oberbayern. Many beautiful photos of Oberbayern, plus some from the other districts, too.


Flags of Oberbayern


About Munich


Munich Organiser



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